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Post by beebee on Aug 11, 2013 2:53:16 GMT
Oh cool! Thanks. Do you think Elaine Pagels work is biased? I think that is where i came up with gnostic jesus, lol Yes, she most certainly is biased. One of her books is called The Gnostic Gospels. The word gospel means - the teaching or revelation of Christ. Well, the Gnostics were adamantly against the Christian religion, so it is in error to call any of their writings a "gospel." She attended an evangelical church as a teenagers. Ridding oneself of indoctrination is not easily done. Even though one might no longer attend church, even have renounced a certain faith, the indoctrination can be instilled so deeply that one finds one's mind still influenced by these early teachings. It's one of the hardest things to rid oneself of - the mind parasites/archons. |
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Post by V~ timed out on Aug 12, 2013 1:44:50 GMT
That is so true! I struggle under the weight if that programming as well. It's easy to go opposite when you 1st leave the church, but damn it is down in there good!
I wouldn't even look at Jesus/Christ outside the bible for awhile.
I am trying to understand if Kristos is the same as the bible Christ. Seems like biblical Jesus is a hyjack from other traditions. Maybe Appolonyas of tyana? (Sp)
None the less, Jesus seems like a kinder, gentler prison guard strictly biblically speaking.
So much to take in! That is why i value your help so much!!!!!
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Post by beebee on Aug 12, 2013 2:47:11 GMT
That is so true! I struggle under the weight if that programming as well. It's easy to go opposite when you 1st leave the church, but damn it is down in there good! I wouldn't even look at Jesus/Christ outside the bible for awhile. I am trying to understand if Kristos is the same as the bible Christ. Seems like biblical Jesus is a hyjack from other traditions. Maybe Appolonyas of tyana? (Sp) None the less, Jesus seems like a kinder, gentler prison guard strictly biblically speaking. So much to take in! That is why i value your help so much!!!!!I am humbled by those words. Many say the biblical Jesus is indeed Apollo of Tyana. I haven't looked into that at all. If, by Kristos/Christos you mean the one mentioned in the Gnostic writings, then, no, that is not the same as the biblical Christ. Gnostics taught that Christos is a divinity in the galactic matrix who united with Sophia to shape the singularity of human potential. If we use personification, then we could say Christos is our father and Sophia is our Mother. We're talking about cosmic energy/divinity from the very core of our Milky Way Galaxy known to the Gnostics as Aeons. The programming/conditioning you and I are trying to free ourselves from is so very deep seated because we have incarnations in every time frequency that were also forced to comply with the indoctrination. We're talking thousands of years here. It's almost like a virus attached to our very psyche. I'm always amazed I was able to recognize the programming/conditioning for what it was designed to achieve - total mind control/total obedience. Once you recognize this and remove the yoke, it becomes a very lonely world. I'm glad I bumped into you. |
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Post by V~ on Aug 12, 2013 4:33:42 GMT
I know! We are black sheep in a whitewashed world. From word go i wandered differently than most. But always on the fridge of something they could relate to, even if it was only to oppose it. I am so far out there now, most don't have enough knowledge to understand where i am coming from, and it is next to impossible to backdrop it for them enough to make sense! < much like that sentence! Lol
I did however blow the mind of a young gal at work today. She is so dang cool for a young gal i just want to mentor her to death!! Lol
I invited her to stop by here and hang, which i would be so honored if she did.
But i am so glad i found you too... Because your timing was incredible when you post the forbidden link!
I am going to reread it again. I got through the Nimrod fragments as much as i could understand. The weird thing is, i don't feel i need all the details to 'know', you know?
I am seeking them because in order to teach it... Well, you gotta know it, know it!
Lol
So Christos & Sophia! I get that. Sophia as in esoteric Judaism... enoch? See i am seriously still in a pantheonic <new word, circle jerk! Lol
I really really appreciate you time & energy! This means more to me than you know!
Oh... So for some reason i though jehova-satan contolled the whole created universe? I am also trying to reconcile chakras and stuff in all of this!!
I am going to have questions for ages!! Lol
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Post by beebee on Aug 12, 2013 21:21:48 GMT
I am going to have questions for ages!! Lol The day you stop asking questions is the day you will be brain-dead. For every answer you think you've found, you'll have yet another question. The Gaia/Sophia myth is on John Lash's website. I found things got much easier for me once I understood the myth; or should I say, as best as I can grasp it, as it is not the easiest story to comprehend. www.metahistory.org/GAIA%20SOPHIA/Synopsis9SM.php |
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Post by V~ on Aug 13, 2013 22:38:47 GMT
That link is pretty much over my head! Sophia becoming Gaia? Lol
WhoA~
Can you imagine what the library at Alexandria was like? I miss it! Hahaha~
I am still in the garden pondering Lilith aka Lucifer?
Is that like looking at my naval spiritually? Lol
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Post by beebee on Aug 14, 2013 4:25:17 GMT
Lilith = Lucifer? That's news to me!! I thought she was Adam's partner before the LORD God came along and divided "the Adam" into 2 separate genders. "...... both male AND female created he them, and called THEIR name Adam." Gen. 5:2 This is in reference to "God" not the LORD God (an archon). "God" did not create Eve. It was the LORD God, who arrives on the scene in Gen. 2:4, that decided to take 'the Adam' and split the androgynous being into 2 separate genders. That's one version of the story. Here's another - judaism.about.com/od/jewishculture/a/Lilith-In-The-Torah-Talmud-And-Midrash.htm |
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Post by V~ on Aug 14, 2013 13:33:44 GMT
See... This is over my head! Lilith was the serpent? Gads
I am confused! I may not have the head skills to follow the gnosis! Lol
Alls i need to know for sure is how to get out of hell.... Lol
This creator god is a piece of work!
I just want off the wheel of reincarnation & to return to source... The REAL supreme source...
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Post by beebee on Aug 14, 2013 22:59:39 GMT
From Robert Monroe's work, it is my understanding there a 3 bands of negative energy wrapped around Mother Earth/Sophia. It's within these bands that you will find all the belief systems. By all, I mean all; even the native "happy hunting grounds." All the various 'heavens', 'hells', Nirvana, shangri-la, etc., He gave each of these levels of consciousness a number. The belief systems are found on levels 25 and 26. There is another level that is higher than that. He called it focus 27. He says we can go there. That is where we have the most freedom and choices (we're not completely free there either). Many decide to come back yet again (I hope I don't!!). There will come a time when these bands are no longer there; we have graduated (humans are no longer here) and Sophia is back to her original pristine self (what ever that means). Exactly when I don't know except it will be before what we would call 3000 AD. So, it seems we cannot return to Source just yet, but we can hang out in/on focus 27 and practice being the creators we are.
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Post by V~ on Aug 15, 2013 23:35:36 GMT
Gad zooks thats complicated! So focus 27 it is.... Because i DO NOT want to come back here unless it's to vacation here when Gaia is returned to Pristine... Lol
I have told the people closest to me i am not coming back... And if they think they are going to talk me into it... They're high!
No humanitarian visits either! I am done!
I wonder what focus 27 is like. Did he say?
I wonder if this planet is set up to be so complicated. Because Sophia has an altogether different role in Judaism & christianity.
She's the Holy Spirit.
I am wondering the bear minimum i need to know to find my way out of here.
From what i could understand of the Nimrod fragments, it seems like passivity is not the way. The part that i thought was clear, is that it's war here.
Alas... Maybe i am not grasping it right. I just want to give my love to the creator of all. But it sounds like it is more of a Divine family than say a singularity?
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Post by beebee on Aug 16, 2013 4:17:38 GMT
Yes, Monroe did tell us all about focus 27. There's a library there that has a copy of every single book that has ever been written. Imagine!! We could actually find all the books TPTB have destroyed throughout the ages. You don't 'read' them in the normal manner. You hold it in your hand and you instantly know the book's contents. There are healing centers for those who's spirit has been severely damaged. That's a place I might want to spend some time in. He speaks mostly about the "park" though. That's the place most of us go to to try and meet up with friends, relatives or simply acquaintances we've met throughout our lives. It's a place where we can create the environment we want. You want a yellow sky, you have it. Blue sand, yep, that too. If you can imagine it, you can create it. Here's a good description of what focus 27 is all about.
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Post by V~ on Aug 16, 2013 19:58:22 GMT
Hmmmm. And how does he know this again? Lol
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Post by beebee on Aug 16, 2013 20:33:54 GMT
Hmmmm. And how does he know this again? Lol 45-50 years of conscious out of body experiences. He met all his other "selves" |
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Post by V~ on Aug 17, 2013 0:37:28 GMT
Hmmmm. And how does he know this again? Lol 45-50 years of conscious out of body experiences. He met all his other "selves" No Kidding!?! That is totally fascinating!!! How are we to know which is just more of jehova-satans prison, or a true breakthrough experience? |
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Post by beebee on Aug 17, 2013 1:49:29 GMT
Well, if any entity mentions heaven or hell, you know you're not on the right "floor" hahaha Bruce Moen has a pretty good website about the Afterlife. www.afterlife-knowledge.com/ |
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